Ed Fowler Interview
by Little Fyodor and Evan Cantor
Photo of Walls Of Genius, 2014
by Robin Cantor
Left to right:
Ed Fowler, Evan Cantor, Little Fyodor
On Super Bowl Sunday, February 2, 2014, Little Fyodor and Evan Cantor interviewed Assistant Head Moron Ed Fowler at Ed's house in Aurora, Colorado, using a handheld digital recorder provided by Evan. The interview was transcribed by Evan.
by Robin Cantor
Left to right:
Ed Fowler, Evan Cantor, Little Fyodor
On Super Bowl Sunday, February 2, 2014, Little Fyodor and Evan Cantor interviewed Assistant Head Moron Ed Fowler at Ed's house in Aurora, Colorado, using a handheld digital recorder provided by Evan. The interview was transcribed by Evan.
David: Ed, you’re 59, right? Hal was asking...
Ed: yes.
David: What are your influences?
Ed: oh, growing up, I first heard Jimi Hendrix when I was doing homework in the 8th grade at my desk and I heard “All Along The Watchtower” come on the radio and I thought “that’s the most amazing guitar sound I’ve ever heard”, so from there on I decided I would learn how to play guitar. I played along with all the stuff from around that time, Canned Heat, Led Zeppelin, blues, anything kinda like that, any blues scale I could figure out.
David: And you used to see Tommy Bolin when he played in bars around here, right?
Ed: yes, that was much later, but yeah. I was 18 to 20, somewhere in that age.
David: I know you once mentioned Steve Hillage as an influence.
Ed: He came along a little later, the early 70s. I was probably 21, living in my first apartment.
David: How did you hear Gong?
Ed: There was a local DU (Denver Univ) radio station. They played a lot of cool stuff, kind of like your station (KGNU in Boulder).
David: You went to Pakistan as a kid—what years did you go?
Ed: ’64 and ’65—the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan the week before we left. All I remember is that everybody was talking about how long their hair was and all the girls were screaming at’em. We were in Pakistan for 2 years with no radio or anything and when we came back we heard a jukebox in a restaurant in Beirut of all places and it had that song “Help” on the jukebox… “Hey, that’s that group that was on Ed Sullivan” My parents said “No, they’re probably not around anymore, that was just a one-night thing”, you know, but sure enough it turned out to be “Help” by the Beatles. It was, like, their new song at the time.
David: so when you came back to the states, did it seem like, did it blow your mind, I mean you were still a kid….
Ed: well, that was before I started playing music. Like I said, it wasn’t until I heard Jimi Hendrix that I decided I wanted to do that, that sounded cool.
David: That wasn’t until 1968, I guess.
Ed: around then, yeah, ’67 or ’68, whenever Electric Ladyland came out.
David: How did you get into “bad stuff”, stuff that was so bad it was good?
Ed: well, my parents happened to have some bad stuff
Evan: what, they had that Gene Tracy record?
Ed: no, not that bad!
David: what did they have?
Ed: oh I dunno, some of it wasn’t even bad, it was good…but it was stuff that normal people wouldn’t really listen to, the Ray Conniff Singers, the Mills Brothers I actually liked, they had these cool western songs. Gunsmoke’s Festus was one. Here’s Festus singing really bad songs. So I just started collecting bad records wherever I found them, thrift stores, Goodwills, wherever.
David: I had no idea that your parents had that Festus record.
Ed: Yeah, and Glenn’s parents had a record of Stan Musial and Joe Garagiola, an old sports announcer, it was just a stupid record, it was just a bad record of them talking about how to bat on a record. How ya gonna learn how to bat off a record? They called each other Joe and Stan constantly. Like, “Stan, how big of a bat do you have? Well, Joe, I have a 36 inch bat, but I’m a big fella, you know? Stan, do you get a kick out of seeing a boy with a bat that’s too big?” You could just make weird references to bats out of this whole record. It was totally stupid, two sides of this album talking about batting.
David: Glenn’s father had that?
Ed: I think Glenn still has that, actually.
Evan: That’s a keepsake.
Ed: yeah, well, anyway, I collected bad albums over the years and got quite a collection.
David: You never heard anyone say that this was something you should do, you just collected these records…
Ed: I saw William Shatner when I was thirteen at the May D&F, which was an old department store downtown and he was signing autographs for his new album back in 1967 when Star Trek first came on tv, so people were buying his album and they were playing it in the department store while he was signing autographs and it was godawful. At the time, I was just thirteen, I didn’t have money to buy it, so I got him to sign a piece of paper for me.
(Ed produces William Shatner autograph)
Evan: Oh my goodness! Captain Kirk’s hand touched that piece of paper! Whoa oh oh oh!
Ed: So later on I got Leonard Nimoy’s album, Telly Savalas, all these stars that thought they had to make albums for some reason. And they were usually pretty bad.
David: Well, “So bad it’s good” has become a part of the English language, but you’re the first person I ever knew who was into that.
Ed: William Shatner has two new albums out right now!
David: And they’re just as bad!
Ed: They’ve got great musicians on them.
Evan: We must have had some element of that going on earlier, cause I remember the people I played with in the Blitz Bunnies (’79, Wash DC) were sort of into that kind of thing. We were developing this cynical attitude about society and its values.
David: well, yeah, they put out a compilation of all these stars and they called it “Golden Throats” but this was years after… Ed was the first one to play me any of those, records like that.
Evan: Oh yeah, me too. (except now I remember a record by Bill Blassie called “Pencil Neck Geek” that Tim Carter of the B-Bunnies had…)
David: well, those were the most intellectual things that I wanted to know. How did you get involved in Stand In The Yard? (pre-Rumours of Marriage)
Ed: I had a room-mate over on Dahlia street, it was her apartment, I moved in with her… She drove me crazy, she only lived there three months and then moved out.
Evan: Was that Robin Stanaway?
Ed: Yeah, Robin… well, she’d go up to Louisville (CO) on weekends and stay at Mikal Bellan’s house..
David: So she was a friend of Mikal Bellan?
Ed: …and he was starting a band and they needed a guitar player and she said, “my roommate plays guitar”., so I did a little acoustic guitar on a cassette tape and she brought it up to Louisville… “bring him up here, bring him up here!” So we just started a band off the Pearl Street Mall. We had a psychiatrist guy and his wife that were a part of the band. He was a doctor, so he had all this recording equipment, synthesizers… he had money obviously, so he rented a room behind the Bagel Bakery and we’d practice up in there.
Evan: That building is now the El Centro restaurant, a block west of Pearl Street Mall, next to the building that used to be the Boulder Daily Camera.
David: oh, okay, it’s on the south side.
Evan: yeah
David: So, Ed, were you in any other bands before Stand In the Yard?
Ed: That was the first real band I was ever in.
David: How long had you been playing by then?
Ed: Since I was thirteen or so…
David: And how old were you then…
Ed: well, that was 1982, so… you do the math.
Evan: ah ha ha!!!
David: well, when you were born…
Ed: oh probably my late 20s or early 30s, somewhere in there…
David: so you’d been playing for ten years and had never been in a band.
Ed: oh, twenty years, I dunno… I never even thought it was possible to start a band, you know, living in a tiny little apartment and stuff. It wasn’t until I met Evan that I really got going with it.
David: so that was in 1982, you picked up the guitar when you heard Hendrix in 1968….or ’69, so Stand in the Yard, Rumours of Marriage and Walls of Genius, that was it, that was the order of the bands.
Ed: well, and Polyester Prophecy, that was it.
David: Well, those are all my questions.
Evan: I’ve got a couple lined up. One of those is “How did you meet Dena Zocher?”
Ed: ah, it was nothin’ exciting, she was Glenn’s girlfriend, back when we were roommates.
Evan: Well, that’s something new! I didn’t know she had been Glenn’s girlfriend, I thought she was >your< girlfriend.
Ed: nah, she was a friend, she was Glenn’s girlfriend. He was a ‘player’ back then. He was seeing Marsha, too, at the same time.
Evan: Now, how did you know Glenn?
Ed: Glenn? We met in Junior High School. Same science class. I was just odd enough and he has a pretty twisted sense of humor for being as smart as he is, a Princeton graduate and all, we just kind of clicked, but we both went to different high schools, but we kept in touch. He was on a summer break from Princeton and he needed a place to stay and so we moved into a 2-bedroom apartment and spent the summer…
Evan: Was that in Aurora?
Ed: yeah, it was over by the old Stapleton airport. I had to catch a bus to go to work every day, I didn’t have a car. (Ed worked for Air Midwest at the airport)
Evan: So Dena was Glenn’s girlfriend at that time.
Ed: yeah
Evan: And you hit it off, you guys hit it off…
Ed: We partied a lot together and she played cello, but it’s kind of hard to play with a cello, it’s a little different…
Evan: yeah, well, that was a great sound for Walls of Genius
David: That’s kind of proto-Walls of Genius activity right there.
Evan: okay, so how did you meet Marsha Wooley?
Ed: same, Glenn’s girlfriend, same summer, different day
Evan: I thought she was >your< girlfriend!
Ed: no, nah… I don’t know how he did it, he had two girlfriends… at least they didn’t run into each other on the same day.
Evan: He had these girlfriends at the same time? Well, okay..
David: Do they know that now?
Ed: I think so.
David: So we’re not letting the cat out of the bag!
Ed: Things were different back then, you know, in the late 60s, the early 70s
David: He was a swinging bachelor.
Evan: right
Ed: I missed out on the love-in’s… I don’t know where they were.
Evan: sounds like Glenn was gettin’ some action… so Ed, can you tell us something about the Telethon Parties?
Ed: well, that’s another thing that Glenn and I… we were living together, we were up… can I… can I say “LSD”?
Evan: oh, of course you can say that
Ed: we were up trippin’ one night and the Telethon was on tv… Jerry Lewis and the usual cast of stupid acts that he had back then, and… so… years later when he moved to California, we decided to have a party every Labor Day Weekend, like a big party, so… it was like a four-day party.
David: So--
Ed: It was just around the Telethon, so we could watch the Telethon and we’d have these, like, Olympic events, or special Olympics events because we were all so inebriated… and, um, Sumo wrestling…
Evan: Did all those parties take place in LA, or did you do them here?
Ed: LA and Bakersfield, when he moved to Bakersfield. We had one here, the last one.
David: So where did they start? Or when and whose idea was it?
Ed: It was kinda Glenn’s idea, it stemmed from that night that he and I were watching the Telethon… so he just decided he’d get all his old Princeton roommates and stuff and… I had an airlines pass because I was working for the airlines, so I could fly out there and stay at his house for free…
David: Because Glenn had moved to LA?
Ed: Yeah, he worked for an oil company… so anyway, there would be however many people would show up, there would be thirty or forty people coming and going in and out all weekend long, all sorts of weird crazy stuff going on all night long…
Ed: yes.
David: What are your influences?
Ed: oh, growing up, I first heard Jimi Hendrix when I was doing homework in the 8th grade at my desk and I heard “All Along The Watchtower” come on the radio and I thought “that’s the most amazing guitar sound I’ve ever heard”, so from there on I decided I would learn how to play guitar. I played along with all the stuff from around that time, Canned Heat, Led Zeppelin, blues, anything kinda like that, any blues scale I could figure out.
David: And you used to see Tommy Bolin when he played in bars around here, right?
Ed: yes, that was much later, but yeah. I was 18 to 20, somewhere in that age.
David: I know you once mentioned Steve Hillage as an influence.
Ed: He came along a little later, the early 70s. I was probably 21, living in my first apartment.
David: How did you hear Gong?
Ed: There was a local DU (Denver Univ) radio station. They played a lot of cool stuff, kind of like your station (KGNU in Boulder).
David: You went to Pakistan as a kid—what years did you go?
Ed: ’64 and ’65—the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan the week before we left. All I remember is that everybody was talking about how long their hair was and all the girls were screaming at’em. We were in Pakistan for 2 years with no radio or anything and when we came back we heard a jukebox in a restaurant in Beirut of all places and it had that song “Help” on the jukebox… “Hey, that’s that group that was on Ed Sullivan” My parents said “No, they’re probably not around anymore, that was just a one-night thing”, you know, but sure enough it turned out to be “Help” by the Beatles. It was, like, their new song at the time.
David: so when you came back to the states, did it seem like, did it blow your mind, I mean you were still a kid….
Ed: well, that was before I started playing music. Like I said, it wasn’t until I heard Jimi Hendrix that I decided I wanted to do that, that sounded cool.
David: That wasn’t until 1968, I guess.
Ed: around then, yeah, ’67 or ’68, whenever Electric Ladyland came out.
David: How did you get into “bad stuff”, stuff that was so bad it was good?
Ed: well, my parents happened to have some bad stuff
Evan: what, they had that Gene Tracy record?
Ed: no, not that bad!
David: what did they have?
Ed: oh I dunno, some of it wasn’t even bad, it was good…but it was stuff that normal people wouldn’t really listen to, the Ray Conniff Singers, the Mills Brothers I actually liked, they had these cool western songs. Gunsmoke’s Festus was one. Here’s Festus singing really bad songs. So I just started collecting bad records wherever I found them, thrift stores, Goodwills, wherever.
David: I had no idea that your parents had that Festus record.
Ed: Yeah, and Glenn’s parents had a record of Stan Musial and Joe Garagiola, an old sports announcer, it was just a stupid record, it was just a bad record of them talking about how to bat on a record. How ya gonna learn how to bat off a record? They called each other Joe and Stan constantly. Like, “Stan, how big of a bat do you have? Well, Joe, I have a 36 inch bat, but I’m a big fella, you know? Stan, do you get a kick out of seeing a boy with a bat that’s too big?” You could just make weird references to bats out of this whole record. It was totally stupid, two sides of this album talking about batting.
David: Glenn’s father had that?
Ed: I think Glenn still has that, actually.
Evan: That’s a keepsake.
Ed: yeah, well, anyway, I collected bad albums over the years and got quite a collection.
David: You never heard anyone say that this was something you should do, you just collected these records…
Ed: I saw William Shatner when I was thirteen at the May D&F, which was an old department store downtown and he was signing autographs for his new album back in 1967 when Star Trek first came on tv, so people were buying his album and they were playing it in the department store while he was signing autographs and it was godawful. At the time, I was just thirteen, I didn’t have money to buy it, so I got him to sign a piece of paper for me.
(Ed produces William Shatner autograph)
Evan: Oh my goodness! Captain Kirk’s hand touched that piece of paper! Whoa oh oh oh!
Ed: So later on I got Leonard Nimoy’s album, Telly Savalas, all these stars that thought they had to make albums for some reason. And they were usually pretty bad.
David: Well, “So bad it’s good” has become a part of the English language, but you’re the first person I ever knew who was into that.
Ed: William Shatner has two new albums out right now!
David: And they’re just as bad!
Ed: They’ve got great musicians on them.
Evan: We must have had some element of that going on earlier, cause I remember the people I played with in the Blitz Bunnies (’79, Wash DC) were sort of into that kind of thing. We were developing this cynical attitude about society and its values.
David: well, yeah, they put out a compilation of all these stars and they called it “Golden Throats” but this was years after… Ed was the first one to play me any of those, records like that.
Evan: Oh yeah, me too. (except now I remember a record by Bill Blassie called “Pencil Neck Geek” that Tim Carter of the B-Bunnies had…)
David: well, those were the most intellectual things that I wanted to know. How did you get involved in Stand In The Yard? (pre-Rumours of Marriage)
Ed: I had a room-mate over on Dahlia street, it was her apartment, I moved in with her… She drove me crazy, she only lived there three months and then moved out.
Evan: Was that Robin Stanaway?
Ed: Yeah, Robin… well, she’d go up to Louisville (CO) on weekends and stay at Mikal Bellan’s house..
David: So she was a friend of Mikal Bellan?
Ed: …and he was starting a band and they needed a guitar player and she said, “my roommate plays guitar”., so I did a little acoustic guitar on a cassette tape and she brought it up to Louisville… “bring him up here, bring him up here!” So we just started a band off the Pearl Street Mall. We had a psychiatrist guy and his wife that were a part of the band. He was a doctor, so he had all this recording equipment, synthesizers… he had money obviously, so he rented a room behind the Bagel Bakery and we’d practice up in there.
Evan: That building is now the El Centro restaurant, a block west of Pearl Street Mall, next to the building that used to be the Boulder Daily Camera.
David: oh, okay, it’s on the south side.
Evan: yeah
David: So, Ed, were you in any other bands before Stand In the Yard?
Ed: That was the first real band I was ever in.
David: How long had you been playing by then?
Ed: Since I was thirteen or so…
David: And how old were you then…
Ed: well, that was 1982, so… you do the math.
Evan: ah ha ha!!!
David: well, when you were born…
Ed: oh probably my late 20s or early 30s, somewhere in there…
David: so you’d been playing for ten years and had never been in a band.
Ed: oh, twenty years, I dunno… I never even thought it was possible to start a band, you know, living in a tiny little apartment and stuff. It wasn’t until I met Evan that I really got going with it.
David: so that was in 1982, you picked up the guitar when you heard Hendrix in 1968….or ’69, so Stand in the Yard, Rumours of Marriage and Walls of Genius, that was it, that was the order of the bands.
Ed: well, and Polyester Prophecy, that was it.
David: Well, those are all my questions.
Evan: I’ve got a couple lined up. One of those is “How did you meet Dena Zocher?”
Ed: ah, it was nothin’ exciting, she was Glenn’s girlfriend, back when we were roommates.
Evan: Well, that’s something new! I didn’t know she had been Glenn’s girlfriend, I thought she was >your< girlfriend.
Ed: nah, she was a friend, she was Glenn’s girlfriend. He was a ‘player’ back then. He was seeing Marsha, too, at the same time.
Evan: Now, how did you know Glenn?
Ed: Glenn? We met in Junior High School. Same science class. I was just odd enough and he has a pretty twisted sense of humor for being as smart as he is, a Princeton graduate and all, we just kind of clicked, but we both went to different high schools, but we kept in touch. He was on a summer break from Princeton and he needed a place to stay and so we moved into a 2-bedroom apartment and spent the summer…
Evan: Was that in Aurora?
Ed: yeah, it was over by the old Stapleton airport. I had to catch a bus to go to work every day, I didn’t have a car. (Ed worked for Air Midwest at the airport)
Evan: So Dena was Glenn’s girlfriend at that time.
Ed: yeah
Evan: And you hit it off, you guys hit it off…
Ed: We partied a lot together and she played cello, but it’s kind of hard to play with a cello, it’s a little different…
Evan: yeah, well, that was a great sound for Walls of Genius
David: That’s kind of proto-Walls of Genius activity right there.
Evan: okay, so how did you meet Marsha Wooley?
Ed: same, Glenn’s girlfriend, same summer, different day
Evan: I thought she was >your< girlfriend!
Ed: no, nah… I don’t know how he did it, he had two girlfriends… at least they didn’t run into each other on the same day.
Evan: He had these girlfriends at the same time? Well, okay..
David: Do they know that now?
Ed: I think so.
David: So we’re not letting the cat out of the bag!
Ed: Things were different back then, you know, in the late 60s, the early 70s
David: He was a swinging bachelor.
Evan: right
Ed: I missed out on the love-in’s… I don’t know where they were.
Evan: sounds like Glenn was gettin’ some action… so Ed, can you tell us something about the Telethon Parties?
Ed: well, that’s another thing that Glenn and I… we were living together, we were up… can I… can I say “LSD”?
Evan: oh, of course you can say that
Ed: we were up trippin’ one night and the Telethon was on tv… Jerry Lewis and the usual cast of stupid acts that he had back then, and… so… years later when he moved to California, we decided to have a party every Labor Day Weekend, like a big party, so… it was like a four-day party.
David: So--
Ed: It was just around the Telethon, so we could watch the Telethon and we’d have these, like, Olympic events, or special Olympics events because we were all so inebriated… and, um, Sumo wrestling…
Evan: Did all those parties take place in LA, or did you do them here?
Ed: LA and Bakersfield, when he moved to Bakersfield. We had one here, the last one.
David: So where did they start? Or when and whose idea was it?
Ed: It was kinda Glenn’s idea, it stemmed from that night that he and I were watching the Telethon… so he just decided he’d get all his old Princeton roommates and stuff and… I had an airlines pass because I was working for the airlines, so I could fly out there and stay at his house for free…
David: Because Glenn had moved to LA?
Ed: Yeah, he worked for an oil company… so anyway, there would be however many people would show up, there would be thirty or forty people coming and going in and out all weekend long, all sorts of weird crazy stuff going on all night long…
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Evan: Now, Ed, there’s a photograph of you… posing in a woman’s swimsuit… with a basketball… what’s the story? uh….
Ed: oh, it’s here somewhere
Evan: I have a copy of that photograph in the WoG scrapbook
Ed: there it is, right there! That was actually Dena’s jumpsuit. For some reason, we did some mushrooms, next thing I know I was wearing her jumpsuit. We actually went out to Venice Beach and I was wearing that on the beach.
Robin: Oh my gosh.
Evan: You wore that on Venice Beach? wow… You probably looked normal!
Ed: nobody cared on Venice Beach! if you’ve ever been there…
David: yeah
Ed: it’s, like, a freak capital, like Boulder
Evan: Ed, um, on the Dirt Clods cassette tape, before there was a Walls of Genius, you recall, there was Ed’n Evan and the Dirt Clods and all these incarnations where I was coming down to Denver and jamming at your place. On one of those recordings, you are reciting a poem or a prose poem, something about “A kiss is not a contract”… does that ring a bell for you, do you remember what that is?
Ed: I dunno. I don’t remember that at all.
Evan: There’s another…
Ed: Are you sure it was me?
Evan: It’s your voice. There’s another recording where I am reading something that sounds like this guy, “brother Paul”, is defending his ideas of God to an alien, maybe? And I have no memory of where it came from, but it ramps up to this maniacal desperation about God… and Marsha and Dena are laughing, mockingly laughing, in the background. Do you have any idea what that might have been?
Ed: I haven’t heard any of that probably since we made it. I don’t remember any of that.
David: Proves you were there, Ed!
Evan: Okay, so I have one more question for ya, Ed. There was a night where we were called “Fabian Policy” and we recorded a bunch of things. We thanked, at the time, we thanked Floyd, Karen and Lisa. Any idea who they are?
(Lots of laughter, Ed doesn’t recall)
Evan: There was also someone named Bob Summa that was thanked.
David: He was a roommate of mine! Also, I noticed on the reel to reel tape, that you wrote “Bob LeBlanck”—I don’t know why you wrote it, his name is just there, that was my other roommate, where I lived in between the Gandossy’s place and the Halls Of Genius, at the end of Colorado Boulevard in Boulder, a basement apartment in a house. Years later, Bob Summa called on “Go For It” and he went “Dave and Evan, where are you? This is Bob!” and at first… it was recent, it might have just been after Tonks was giving us shit or something, and we were, at first, like “who the hell is this? What?” You know, you kinda got that feeling of loss of privacy, you’re sitting in your living room and this person is talking to you over the radio and we were like “what is this!?”… suddenly it occurred to us that it was Bob Summa, he had gone bicycling in Switzerland for a while and this was an attempt to get back in touch…
Evan: oh yeah, pre Facebook, forty years prior.
David: yeah
Evan: oh, thirty years! Let’s not prematurely age ourselves. Well, let’s turn the tape off.
Ed: oh, it’s here somewhere
Evan: I have a copy of that photograph in the WoG scrapbook
Ed: there it is, right there! That was actually Dena’s jumpsuit. For some reason, we did some mushrooms, next thing I know I was wearing her jumpsuit. We actually went out to Venice Beach and I was wearing that on the beach.
Robin: Oh my gosh.
Evan: You wore that on Venice Beach? wow… You probably looked normal!
Ed: nobody cared on Venice Beach! if you’ve ever been there…
David: yeah
Ed: it’s, like, a freak capital, like Boulder
Evan: Ed, um, on the Dirt Clods cassette tape, before there was a Walls of Genius, you recall, there was Ed’n Evan and the Dirt Clods and all these incarnations where I was coming down to Denver and jamming at your place. On one of those recordings, you are reciting a poem or a prose poem, something about “A kiss is not a contract”… does that ring a bell for you, do you remember what that is?
Ed: I dunno. I don’t remember that at all.
Evan: There’s another…
Ed: Are you sure it was me?
Evan: It’s your voice. There’s another recording where I am reading something that sounds like this guy, “brother Paul”, is defending his ideas of God to an alien, maybe? And I have no memory of where it came from, but it ramps up to this maniacal desperation about God… and Marsha and Dena are laughing, mockingly laughing, in the background. Do you have any idea what that might have been?
Ed: I haven’t heard any of that probably since we made it. I don’t remember any of that.
David: Proves you were there, Ed!
Evan: Okay, so I have one more question for ya, Ed. There was a night where we were called “Fabian Policy” and we recorded a bunch of things. We thanked, at the time, we thanked Floyd, Karen and Lisa. Any idea who they are?
(Lots of laughter, Ed doesn’t recall)
Evan: There was also someone named Bob Summa that was thanked.
David: He was a roommate of mine! Also, I noticed on the reel to reel tape, that you wrote “Bob LeBlanck”—I don’t know why you wrote it, his name is just there, that was my other roommate, where I lived in between the Gandossy’s place and the Halls Of Genius, at the end of Colorado Boulevard in Boulder, a basement apartment in a house. Years later, Bob Summa called on “Go For It” and he went “Dave and Evan, where are you? This is Bob!” and at first… it was recent, it might have just been after Tonks was giving us shit or something, and we were, at first, like “who the hell is this? What?” You know, you kinda got that feeling of loss of privacy, you’re sitting in your living room and this person is talking to you over the radio and we were like “what is this!?”… suddenly it occurred to us that it was Bob Summa, he had gone bicycling in Switzerland for a while and this was an attempt to get back in touch…
Evan: oh yeah, pre Facebook, forty years prior.
David: yeah
Evan: oh, thirty years! Let’s not prematurely age ourselves. Well, let’s turn the tape off.